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  Especially for Cedars - My Cunning Plan. Or maybe not

  by not bitter in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  until the conti case came to light, i was not aware of the extent of child abuse going on in the org.

  and i was completely unaware of the jw policies on these matters.

  i read their offical policy on child abuse on jw.org and was gob smacked to say the least.

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  One of the reasons I didn't go ahead with this is because I was uncomfortable using my child to get the point across.
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  Especially for Cedars - My Cunning Plan. Or maybe not

  by not bitter in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  until the conti case came to light, i was not aware of the extent of child abuse going on in the org.

  and i was completely unaware of the jw policies on these matters.

  i read their offical policy on child abuse on jw.org and was gob smacked to say the least.

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  Until the Conti case came to light, I was not aware of the extent of child abuse going on in the org. And I was completely unaware of the JW policies on these matters. I read their offical policy on child abuse on JW.org and was gob smacked to say the least. My father is an elder and the thought of my dad possibly being involved in such cases and even helping to cover them up was horrendous for me. It still is. I was so upset and angry about it that I seriously considered going ahead with the following: My parents help look after my 6 year old daughter X before and after school. They do a good job with her and she adores them and they her. So I was going to sit them both down one day and explain to them that X had told us that our neighbour (father of her best friends) has been touching her inappropriately and hurting her. At this point I know they would almost have heart attacks with shock and upset and I can guarantee that my mother would immediately ask if I've called the police. Then I would explain that we have questioned him ourselves and he has denied it of course. Then we got the said accussed and X in a room together and questioned them both again. ''As you can imagine Mum and Dad, this was extremely frightening for X being sat with this man and having to answer such delicate questions. But again he denied the accusations and X became extremely traumatised and upset'' My mother would be hysterical by now and demanding that I should call the police and asking me what on earth I was thinking of putting X through this. I would then explain that as he has denied it and no one else was present during the abuse other than himself and X that we have had to draw a line under it and leave it. ''I'm sure you can understand Mum and Dad that its very difficult for X as she often has to see this man, but there you go. Thats the rules.'' End of cunning plan. I didn't do it. I just got carried away with my thoughts the way we all do sometimes and have imaginary conversations with people. I wonder if my Dad would have cottoned on to what I was saying.
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  New video: Jehovah's Witnesses and Watchtower's secret child abuse letter

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  we have decided to let the world know what happened when our websites were shut down earlier this month by means of this new video..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_9efi84qnc.

  huge thanks to nugget for lending us her gorgeous voice, and also to cantleave for his cameo role as the voice of the big bad watchtower!

  cedars.

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  Cedars - I have tried that, writing down my thoughts and what I would say to them if I only had the courage. It probably did help because I did manage to calm down for a while.

  I'll just have to do it again. I did have a cunning plan but I'd by hijacking this thread if I put it here.
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  New video: Jehovah's Witnesses and Watchtower's secret child abuse letter

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  we have decided to let the world know what happened when our websites were shut down earlier this month by means of this new video..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_9efi84qnc.

  huge thanks to nugget for lending us her gorgeous voice, and also to cantleave for his cameo role as the voice of the big bad watchtower!

  cedars.

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  Wow. I am so impressed with this video. Thankyou to all those involved in making it. But its got me so wound up again. When the Conti case came to light and I read the offical JW policy on child abuse it bothered me greatly especially as my father is an elder. At the time I wanted to speak to my parents about it because I was so angry but I ended up avoiding them for a while to calm myself and ended up not saying anything just to keep the peace. Watching this video has started all those feelings of anger and disbelief once again. I'm not sure what I should do.
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  does anyone dream they are on the ministry?

  by pajaha in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  or maybe that should be "nightmare" - not dream.. it happens less and less, but still does now and again after 10 years.

  it's always associated with a great feeling of dread and going from door to door knowing you do not believe what you are saying (i should point out that, while i was in it, i pretty much did believe it).. i guess it shows how big a part of our lives it once was - a bit like you often dream of being in school or of long-departed relatives..

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  Yep I do. Well the dreams are normally about my Dad dragging me out of bed on a weekend to force me to go out which is normally what used to happen 20 years ago. In the dream I think I usually manage to get out of actually knocking on a door.
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  Have You Ever Seen Or Met Anyone Famous?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i'm not talking about any gb members, either!.

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  Charlton Heston - I had a drink with him in the bar at the Theatre Royal in Bath. I've also walked past Bob Geldof on the Kings road back in the late eighties but Charlton is my best claim to fame.
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  What was the worst thing an "elder" ever did to you ?

  by Pitchess Co-Gen in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the worst thing an "elder" ever did to me was in 2008. i was in one congregation, but i wanted to return to my home congregation because i've been reproved there twice ( once private and the last one public ).

  when i came into this congregation in 2007 i thought i was going to move up the food chain ( this congregation was full of older people, so i thought i would move up faster ).

  but i got into some trouble in the congregation.

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  kiss me on the lips after my bible study
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  Who have you seen in concert?

  by pontoon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my short list; lynard skynard, beach boys, carole king, yes, doobie brothers, rod stewart, ringo starr.. all star band, styx, gordon lightfoot, moody blues.

  can you tell i like the older stuff?.

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  U2

  David Bowie (twice. once with Tin Machine)

  Depeche Mode

  Erasure

  Killers

  R.E.M

  The Cranberries

  Gary Numan

  Red Hot Chillie Peppers

  Therapy

  The Three Tenors

  Jose Carreras

  Bon Jovi - but only because I fancied on of the guys I was going with

  My biggest regret was not seeing Queen with Freddie
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  "newbie" post - after eight years registered

  by pajaha in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  actually, this is my second post as i replied to a thread a few moments ago, but it turns out i originally registered eight years ago but had never posted.. i left in 2000 (from a newport, s wales, congregation) having been brought up in it from about the age of three.

  initially, i was obsessed with research and posting to forums but got over it after a few years and just rediscovered this site a couple of days ago.

  i just thought it would be worth posting my account of leaving in case it helped others.. i always considered myself to be "strong in the truth" and genuinely believed it,, but i suppose the amount of suppressed doubts had been mounting up and i think it was the summer of 1999 when i first thought of leaving.

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  Welcome Pajaha,

  I know you. I'm Thomas Covenants sister and I lived very close to you. Its good to hear from you after all these years.
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  PBS America - Jehovahs Witnesses. Did anyone see it last night?

  by not bitter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there was a show on about jw's 11.30 last night (uk time).

  i recored it, only watched 20 mins of it so far and its seems very pro jw.

  did anyone else watch?.

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  There was a show on about JW's 11.30 last night (UK time). I recored it, only watched 20 mins of it so far and its seems very pro JW. Did anyone else watch?

  So far they've talked about the stance the German witnesses made during WWII and they are also following a young man who needs a liver transplant but obviously with bloodless surgery and trying to find a hospital that will take him on.